February '07

Question 1 : George Jones

 

            WEST

AQ10xxxx
x
Jxxx
x  

          EAST

void
KQ10xx
Ax
AKQxxx
 
West is Dealer and bids 3 Spades.  How do you, as East, bid this hand?


Panel's Responses

Tom Kniest

Unlucky hand - I would bid 3NT with the E hand - sometimes pard has a few clubs or one useful red card.


Roger Lord

The next time I hold the East hand, I will pass 3S. Then, if West holds this exact hand - S AQ10xxxx H 9x D xx C Jx, my partner might complain that I should have responded 4 clubs after which we would get to 5C. (Fat chance !!)

 

Tom Oppenheimer

Bid 3 no trump. Your clubs should be a source of tricks. If partner's spades are so solid that they can play opposite a singleton or void, partner can bid 4 spades.

 

Nancy Popkin

At matchpoints, I would pass; at imps I would bid 4 spades and just hope that partner had good trumps.

 

Ed Schultz

Pass at match points, 4S at IMPs. Conservative at mp's, a little more aggressive at imps.

 

Karen Walker

My action with responder's hand would depend in part on the vulnerability and form of scoring. White at matchpoints, I'd pass and hope for a plus score. Red at matchpoints or white at IMPs, I'd be thinking longer and might or might not bid 4S, probably depending on how lucky I was feeling that day. Red at Imps, I'd bid 4S and pray.

 

En Xie

It's hard for me to pass partner's 3S bid with 18hcp, especially in imps games. The only time I might think about pass is when we are non-vul and they are vul. Then partner might make preemptive bid with junky hand (you need to know your partner's bidding style). In other cases, I would bid 4s and let partner worry about how to make it. For the example hand you showed, you need to have some luck to make 4s or 3nt.

 

Milt Zlatic

It's hard to say without knowing the vulnerability or the pre-emptive style. 3NT may be right but if you pre-empt with good suits, I would raise to 4 spades. West's hand is going to be useless in 3NT.

 

 


Question 2 : Bill Van Loon

 

I have started playing duplicate bridge again after a long break from the game.
 
We started back in playing SAYC in the open section at Kate Buckmann's in Toronto and after about a month we are now competitive in this section, most nights.
 
Have just read a book by Paul Thurston called 25 Steps to Learning 2/1.
 
Is it possible to introduce ourselves to the system by playing 2/1 only after a major opening and leave the rest our version of SAYC based mostly on Ned Downey/Ellen Pomer book Standard Bidding with SAYC.
 
My first impression is that 2/1 system after a major opening bid is superior to SAYC and the only 2/1 auction that occurs after a minor opening bid is 1D-2C

 

Panel's Responses

Tom Kniest

I haven't read Paul Thurston's book, but 2/1 is certainly a system that can be learned in increments.   One of the issues is whether to play "Eastern Scientific" or west coast style.  Major styles are Roth Stone, KS, Walsh, and Max Hardy.  Of course, you can now add Precision to those systems, which modifies them somewhat.  Mike Lawrence has done a ton of writing on his style - a good way to learn.  Many who play 2/1 have incorporated all or a portion of the Bergen system.  The short answer is to read the same stuff your partner does and come to agreements.

 

Roger Lord

We don't know what SAYC is. Neither does the encyclopedia.

 

With respect to the last paragraph, we play 1D-P-2C as game forcing, and we play 1D-P-3C natural and invitational - usually aiming for 3N.

 

Tom Oppenheimer

Not sure what SAYC is...standard American? I like 2/1 but you do not have to play every aspect of a system.

 

Nancy Popkin

Yes, it is possible to merge 2/1 and SAYC as many people who play online do that. Some people even only play 2/1 after a major opening. Others include 1d/2c as game forcing. One bid you need to agree on is whether say 1h/2c/2s = a real reverse (showing 18-19 point range) or whether it is just showing the shape of your hand.

 

Ed Schultz

Not familiar with Paul Thurston's book, or with Ned Downey/Ellen Pomer book Standard Bidding with SAYC. 2/1 is easier than not playing 2/1, but would recommend Max Hardy's 2/1 Game Force or Mike Lawrence's book on the same subject although there are probably good books on the subject that I am not familiar with.

 

Karen Walker

My preference for 2-over-1 is the Mike Lawrence approach. His recommendation is that 2-level responses are forcing only after a major opening, and the auction 1D-2C is not forcing to game. He also builds in the exception that opener can pass if responder rebids his minor in a non-fitting auction (1S-2C-2S-3C). The alternative is the Max Hardy approach, which makes all 2-over-1 responses forcing to game.

 

You can play just about all the other SAYC conventions with any 2-over-1 system, but you need to add the Forcing 1NT convention. This web page has a description of the Hardy and Lawrence systems and a fairly detailed set of Lawrence-style bidding guidelines: http://www.prairienet.org/bridge/2over1.htm . The page has a link to a description of the Forcing 1NT convention.

 

En Xie

I think it's possible to play 2/1 only after major opening and leave the rest of your version as SAYC. I am not convinced that 2/1 system is superior to SAYC though. Even I play 2/1 most of time. As I know, there are many excellent new versions or modified versions of SAYC. In my opinion, they are as good as 2/1 system.

 

Milt Zlatic
There is nothing wrong with doing it that way. I played it that way when I started playing 2/1. Make sure you note that exclusion on your convention card. You can also play that a rebid of responder's suit is not forcing.

 


Question 3 : Da Moderator

 

You arrive at a tournament and find that your partner has abandoned you (chose the boat over a table). After failing to find a victim.I mean partner.on your own, you find yourself at the Partnership desk filling out Da form. Within a few minutes, the partnership organizer, eyeing you skeptically, has identified for you 3 potential partners (not known to you) with similar table etiquette but with unique skills:

 

Player A - known to be a tough defender. Knows all about breaking up double, upside down, hang oneself squeezes.

 

Player B - oh, what a beautiful bidder !!!! Can let you know whether he/she has the club 10 or the spade 8 !!!!

 

Player C - by the time he/she finishes declaring, all the spots are off the cards.

 

Who would you choose to play with in an IMPs event? MP event? National Pairs game ??

 

Panel's Responses

Tom Kniest

Player A will do well for you in all events.   

 

Roger Lord

IMPs - Player B

MPs - Player A

National Pairs - Players A, B, and C

 

Tom Oppenheimer

As the old saying goes, you declare 25% of the hands, defend 50% and bid 100%. I will take the bidder.

 

Nancy Popkin

In all 3 cases, I would choose the best bidder because you are never going to do well if you get to the wrong contracts.

 

Ed Schultz

I would choose to be a kibitzer and not play. Not given that choice, and without information, I would choose the guy who was the better defender. IMPs event. I would prefer not to play a matchpoint event with a new partner.

 

Karen Walker

No matter whom I choose, I'm going to win the event and become rich and famous, because it's obvious this is a dream. In real life, these three people would never be at the partnership desk.

 

Forced to make a choice, though, I'd take Player A because good defenders usually have the card-play skills to excel as declarers, too.

 

The downside to the other two players is that it sounds like it's going to take far too long to fill out a convention card with Player B, and far too long to play the hands with Player C.

 

En Xie

I'll let them decide first. The winner will play with me.

 

Milt Zlatic

Player C would be good in an IMPs event because the contract will be made even if you're in the wrong contract. You may lose a few IMPs but there'll never be a game swing.

 

Player B would be good in a MP event since plus scores are a premium and getting to the right contract makes that possible.

 

Player A would be good in a National Pair event. Many hands play themselves and on others you'll get some field protection. A lot of matchpoints can be won if hands are defended properly.

 


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